a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.
if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.
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Fisherman, "Things can change in a snap."
Nothing has changed in 137 years of false prophecies in a snap or otherwise. Religion if anything will grow as society becomes more impoverished. Religion thrives on misery and there will be plenty of misery yet to come. And no, that misery has nothing to do with what the Bible has to say about the end.
a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.
if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.
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Fisherman,
"The same hysteria that happened in 1975 by a bunch of clueless self promoting people within the organization that were in essence confused or just studying."
That's a damn lie. I was there in 1974 and I heard a talk given to 10,000+ people in attendance by none other than Frederick Franz. He said that the end might happen within a few months or a few years after 1975 but not decades.
so after 20 years a convert, about a month ago i decided to start listening to my doubts and to do independent research about the wtbts teachings (naughty me).
as a result i have consolidated my position on various points and these are my major issues with the wtbts teachings, i am posting these to help myself figure things out (with your assistance) and hopefully to hear from others at their stage of drawing away from the gb - newbies' especially.
in the form of notes so hope you dont mind...child abuse.
Tornintwo,
"Elevation of the GBThe habit of equating GB teachings with Jehovah..."
That's what got me out, not doctrine or dates. It is the psychology of these people that counts even if they had no change in doctrine; no doomsday predictions; no forced field service etc.
a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.
if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.
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Fisherman, do you believe that the Jehovah's Witnesses are the "Truth"? If so why are you here?
im typing this while i'm sitting on the toilet in the kingdom hall to just skip a few seconds of the mumbling.
they read a letter just now they have started to replace the kingdom melodies with the orchestral versions.
all and all to make it look and sound better to the people outside.. id have to say though, that piano music sucks measuring up to church music.
a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.
if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.
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SimonSays,
First off 2034 was orchestrated by you people, not the WTS.
Yes there are some - not me - who speculate that the Witchtower might use that date but in view of all their falsified prophecies on specific dates can you blame them?
Second, let your ideology out while you still can, don’t worry,
Huh?
Government will close the WTS soon enough for you all? But then again, it will close all religion as well.
Are you related to Alex Jones?
So the only people that will enjoy life for a short time will be atheist and evolutionist.
Nope. Us demons will live to a ripe old age.
Any converts, think about it before the figure pointing starts.
Think? Is that what you're doing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7ptao4imsm&feature=player_embedded.
i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.
the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.
it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.
a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.
if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.
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i have recently been studying the myths and legends of other pre- jewish cultures.
such as babylonian, egyptian and greek.
these stories and beliefs are all pre dating the writing of the jewish torah and the new testament.
Magnum,
Bugbear, do you have any book recommendations? Anybody else?
A good book on the subject of the Exodus is William Stiebing's Out of the Desert.
It's based on the premise that there was an exodus from Egypt but that only a few thousand "Hebrews" were part of it not over a million like the Bible states.
